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Nothankyou wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 9:09 am

Lor370 wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 8:53 am

Please remove premade groups from BGs and limit the queue to a maximum of 2 players queuing together.
It makes no sense to allow premade groups to play against teams made up of 100% random players.

Exactly this. We can pretend premades are "just how its supposed to be" because it was always "just how its supposed to be", but this stuff ISN'T healthy for the game.

1) It encourages NO new communities or development of communities, since the premades are always basically just an already established bunch of end game raider guildies deciding to queue together.

2) Its incredibly toxic to every normal player, since they (logically correctly) see a premade and go "Its best to just AFK and lose fast".

3) With premades being so rare, the chances of a premade fighting another premade are zero.

Yes, debate lords can invent 1000 different philosophies and reddit arguments as to why premades are "okay", or "not a big deal", or "intended", or "get better". But in THE REAL WORLD 99% of players will AFK lose against them, and if premades become too common, 99% of players will eventually stop queing for BGs.


If you really want to help the Octowow Pvp community grow, put invisible walls around the WSG flag carrier abuse spots.

Today in 60's bracket and Entire Horde PVP server premade was put against PVE people and annihilated them all day long nobody stood a chance, it's BS. Max 5 imo.

Oallalalasdasda wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 9:22 am

Nothankyou wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 9:09 am

Lor370 wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 8:53 am

Exactly this. We can pretend premades are "just how its supposed to be" because it was always "just how its supposed to be", but this stuff ISN'T healthy for the game.

1) It encourages NO new communities or development of communities, since the premades are always basically just an already established bunch of end game raider guildies deciding to queue together.

2) Its incredibly toxic to every normal player, since they (logically correctly) see a premade and go "Its best to just AFK and lose fast".

3) With premades being so rare, the chances of a premade fighting another premade are zero.

Yes, debate lords can invent 1000 different philosophies and reddit arguments as to why premades are "okay", or "not a big deal", or "intended", or "get better". But in THE REAL WORLD 99% of players will AFK lose against them, and if premades become too common, 99% of players will eventually stop queing for BGs.


If you really want to help the Octowow Pvp community grow, put invisible walls around the WSG flag carrier abuse spots.

Today in 60's bracket and Entire Horde PVP server premade was put against PVE people and annihilated them all day long nobody stood a chance, it's BS. Max 5 imo.

Even better when you think about the PvP server having a fifth of the PvE pop, being able to farm consumes, trinkets etc. way easier due to that and yet still being matched against the playerbase of the PvE server. Next combine the auction houses while you are at it.

Knifewrench wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 10:37 am

Oallalalasdasda wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 9:22 am

Nothankyou wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 9:09 am

Today in 60's bracket and Entire Horde PVP server premade was put against PVE people and annihilated them all day long nobody stood a chance, it's BS. Max 5 imo.

Even better when you think about the PvP server having a fifth of the PvE pop, being able to farm consumes, trinkets etc. way easier due to that and yet still being matched against the playerbase of the PvE server. Next combine the auction houses while you are at it.

Pve can literly multibox farm and other nonsense wich is forbidden on yshaarj, sooo u got it alot easyer on farming not us.

Archer wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2026 7:53 am • Level 60 players on N'Zoth and Y'Shaarj can now queue Warsong Gulch and Arathi Basin as First Available, Cross-Faction, or Factioned

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