Cult Vibes N'zoth Guild STAY AWAY FROM

[Gildark]

holy mackerel, can y'all just kiss and make up already

[Mareb18]

ill bump this post for you. please get rid of any cancer we may have, I pray they rest with your soul. Solari is a better enchanter anyways.

Calling players that are unaware of your toxic behavior "cancer" is exactly what I expect from you lol. I mean I know I explained I'd keep replying so you'd dig yourself a bigger hole, but the fact you do it anyways despite knowing is next level even for you. Maybe I'll let Solari know as well since he is a nice guy I doubt he will care much for you.

you act high and mighty on a world of warcraft server online. I think people will see that you are actively a huge pussy.

No, I act very averagely actually your just a scumbag lol.

[Dudebro]

the one man band continues. Come check our new fastest clear time after tomorrow Mareb!
I know you'll be sitting there waiting and watching.

[Killafin]

I don't see the problem, clearly the warrior is generating rage while attacking. Clearly he chose all the sucky talents on the fury tree that saps moral by -1 per second per rage generation. "budum tsss"

[Knifewrench]

Calling players that are unaware of your toxic behavior "cancer" is exactly what I expect from you lol. I mean I know I explained I'd keep replying so you'd dig yourself a bigger hole, but the fact you do it anyways despite knowing is next level even for you. Maybe I'll let Solari know as well since he is a nice guy I doubt he will care much for you.

you act high and mighty on a world of warcraft server online. I think people will see that you are actively a huge pussy.

No, I act very averagely actually your just a scumbag lol.

Avg is not needing on bshit items others can uae.

[Dinofast]

Didnt one of your hpalas win temporal anomaly from a caster DPS so he can use the 23 spell power 1 spell hit for healing

[Defiant]

The item is agility + stam which are survival hunters #1 stats. and i top the dmg charts yet i dont know itemization? absurd take but okay, we can agree to disagree

Do you have any idea how painful it is for me to have to agree with Knifewench of all people?

I'm sorry but god damn, you're objectively wrong.

This is the helm you're talking about right? Blackstone Crown;

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Ok so, I raise you this instead;

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The issue here is that you just don't even understand the game at all it seems. You're being ridiculously selfish, and refuse to acknowledge it. Like that is clearly a BIS Shaman Tank helm and you would be better off with a green that I found on the Auction House. The fact that you double down is just insane to be frank. Like in my guild, we accept pretty much everyone, we're happy to help new players figure things out and learn. Everyone has to start somewhere, but you need to be willing to learn-- and you aren't. Not only are you not willing to learn, but you're doubling down.

the shman tank MC tier helmet or the pvp helmet for them would easily be better as well.

They're actually not even remotely close, again you're just digging yourself a hole here. Here are the examples you're talking about;

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The Shaman Tier 1 set is a DPS set, not a Tank set. The PVP helm is even worse than this. Having 34 Stam,1% Dodge, and an extra 130 armor at this phase is massive for Shaman Tanks who really really really need to stack their Stamina numbers as they don't have a lot of dedicated Tanking pieces to choose from. Survival really doesn't utilize Strength much either, even as Melee you're still wanting Agility, so that piece is basically just a mid 50s green item to you and it's BIS for the Shaman probably until they get their T2.5 out of AQ40.

And to be clear I didn't read any of the screenshots/chatlogs or go through all twelve pages of this nonsense. I don't care about the interpersonal issues, but you're going to continue having interpersonal issues if you don't learn from this.

[Mareb18]

The item is agility + stam which are survival hunters #1 stats. and i top the dmg charts yet i dont know itemization? absurd take but okay, we can agree to disagree

Do you have any idea how painful it is for me to have to agree with Knifewench of all people?

I'm sorry but god damn, you're objectively wrong.

This is the helm you're talking about right? Blackstone Crown;
BlackstoneCrown.png


Ok so, I raise you this instead;
Circlet.png


The issue here is that you just don't even understand the game at all it seems. You're being ridiculously selfish, and refuse to acknowledge it. Like that is clearly a BIS Shaman Tank helm and you would be better off with a green that I found on the Auction House. The fact that you double down is just insane to be frank. Like in my guild, we accept pretty much everyone, we're happy to help new players figure things out and learn. Everyone has to start somewhere, but you need to be willing to learn-- and you aren't. Not only are you not willing to learn, but you're doubling down.

the shman tank MC tier helmet or the pvp helmet for them would easily be better as well.

They're actually not even remotely close, again you're just digging yourself a hole here. Here are the examples you're talking about;
EnhT1.png



The Shaman Tier 1 set is a DPS set, not a Tank set. The PVP helm is even worse than this. Having 34 Stam,1% Dodge, and an extra 130 armor at this phase is massive for Shaman Tanks who really really really need to stack their Stamina numbers as they don't have a lot of dedicated Tanking pieces to choose from. Survival really doesn't utilize Strength much either, even as Melee you're still wanting Agility, so that piece is basically just a mid 50s green item to you and it's BIS for the Shaman probably until they get their T2.5 out of AQ40.

And to be clear I didn't read any of the screenshots/chatlogs or go through all twelve pages of this nonsense. I don't care about the interpersonal issues, but you're going to continue having interpersonal issues if you don't learn from this.

Without getting into to much name calling yea knife is a bit.. slow for sure however, I think the OP of this is simply saying the helmet was an upgrade the guild decided to give it to someone else (which ended up being better for them) however they didn't win the roll regardless of all the statements anyone would feel cheated there but, life moves on. The main part of this post is clearly the GM's behavior but the people (assuming from Cult Vibes) came in here and made it about the loot more then anything its quite obvious since all the pictures of the behavior makes the dude look like a complete psychopath and they defend him anyways lmao.

[Dinofast]

The PVP helm is even worse than this.
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i agree with you on everything relevant except that shaman pvp set is worse for tanking. the 6 set bonus stam means the pvp helm pretty decent mit and the spell crit is just insane for sham tank, esp since they spec down the ele tree for spell crit dmg. if you are ever in a point where u need a sham tank to wear a set focused on defense and mit , you dont need a shaman tank.

also it was the right call to not give that helm to the hunter, 100% agree there

[Defiant]

i agree with you on everything relevant except that shaman pvp set is worse for tanking. the 6 set bonus stam means the pvp helm pretty decent mit and the spell crit is just insane for sham tank, esp since they spec down the ele tree for spell crit dmg. if you are ever in a point where u need a sham tank to wear a set focused on defense and mit , you dont need a shaman tank.

also it was the right call to not give that helm to the hunter, 100% agree there

It's hard, the set bonuses from the PVP set definitely are nice, but from my memory and to be fair I am thinking back to progression on Turtle, Shamans really need to stack Stamina early on. The PVP helm isn't bad, and the set bonuses are good, but to get the set bonuses you need to wear the rest of the PVP gear and honestly the other pieces are pretty rough. There's some easy to get K10/ZG gear that are drastically better than the other PVP pieces, so I'd argue going for the 6pc set bonus is kind of gimping yourself tbh. But like fully, there's an argument to be made and I'm not dismissing what you're saying because there are definitely situations where the PVP set would be better, not every fight needs 100% mitigation etc etc but that helm is honestly like really really really good for Shamans early on. I legitimately don't think it would get replaced until T2.5, and as soon as you get better pieces to replace the rest of the PVP set you would really want it.

For example I played a Resto Shaman. I never tanked. Over time I built up a 100% really solid Tank set by rolling offspec after the other people who were actually going to be offtanking now and then got their pieces. I wanted the people who were going to be offtanking those pieces before me because it would help progression. I used my Tank gear quite a lot in PVP as well, so I was sort of in a similar situation as the OP. I do understand wanting to build an offspec set, especially a PVP set, but you can't do that at the expense of your guildies PVE sets imo. It's funny because thinking about all this, my guild doesn't actually have a hard rule set about this, and I think I might add it in. Like MS>OS>PVP lol. Because I genuinely love PVP and want people to be able to get PVP gear, but for example a DPS warrior building a tank offset so that he can help out when duty calls is just so much more important than a PVP set, and it's not like you won't *ever* get that gear for PVP.

Anyways I'm fucking rambling at this point, I just wanted to explain that I do get where OP is coming from and that I'm not just being a dismissive asshole. ( I'm only a dismissive asshole to Knifewench. )

however they didn't win the roll regardless of all the statements anyone would feel cheated there but, life moves on.

Yeah I do understand that the main point of the thread was to talk about the behavior, but I just felt like I needed to point out that not understanding what sparked the issue will lead to more conflict in the future. They legitimately shouldn't feel cheated in this situation, that's kind of my point. They should understand, and honestly even *want* the Shaman to have received it. I dunno, you need to care about the group if you're going to be in a guild. If you just want it to be like, everyone is out for themselves, I recommend just pugging tbh. And I'm not smoking dope and acting like we're all hippies and everyone is altruistic but if you're trying to take BIS *tank* gear as a Hunter you're 100% going to get shit on wherever you go. It's actually like a meme, right, Hunters rolling on fucking everything? It's a stereotype, and a really bad one. Like an extremely bad one. You don't want to be that guy. Or gal, apparently.