Leveling an alt the normal way is just not possible when having a wife and kid.

[Szrental]

You say 'participating in RMT' as in real money trading. My guy... I'm not paying anyone. Nor am I the one getting paid. Having an alt is just for personal enjoyment. Real money trading is not the reason of being banned. Its the fact that i'm using a seperate character to level an alt. Not even Blizzard is against that... Complete bogus rule.

Just ban my main too. No point in talking. It's gonna be dead in a few months anyhow.

Sniejezkaf, the rules say you are allowed to multi-box (play two characters). There are a few stipulations to this that could result in a ban but just playing two characters is not an automatic ban. If you're not sure what the stipulations are, they are in explained in the rules - https://octowow.st/rules.

I point this out because you are saying that there has been no RMT and think it's due to multi-boxing. My suggestion would be to make your case that there was no RMT and wait for Krestel to reply.

You started to do that and then got baited by a few people that don't have any say.

[Wubc]

I totally get where you’re coming from, Sniejezakaf. The GMs here are so toxic—they’ll find something to complain about in absolutely everything. To me, they’re just thoroughly unlikeable assholes who have nothing better to do than make life difficult for the very people who bring this server to life. ... blahblah waahwaah

Just for anyone wondering: the "something to complain about" here is Chromaggus stealing accounts.

Oh the humanity that such a small infraction would be taken notice of and these pillars of the community are not exempt of any and all rules.

I point this out because you are saying that there has been no RMT and think it's due to multi-boxing. My suggestion would be to make your case that there was no RMT and wait for Krestel to reply.

I am 99.9% sure it was due to him multiboxing to boost himself in the open world with his max level character.

In any case, if you can't abide the rules, play somewhere where the rules are to your liking. What's so hard about that? I'm actually a fan of multiboxing, having done it for ages on retail servers. The reason I don't do it here is because the rules are such that I don't see enough enjoyment coming from it. I will not just excuse myself of the rules because I would prefer to do things some other way... It's all laziness, entitlement and excuses. Good riddance.

[Kestrel]

Ah I misread your first post as an RMT admission, sorry about that

I pulled the logs and I see you being warned only once before the ban, however I do see you open world boosting on the PvP server repeatedly for over a month after the warning.

In light of it being the first ban for multiboxing, I have reduced the ban from perminant to 2 weeks.

You can disagree with the rule and we can have a conversation about it, but that doesn't really belong in the ban appeal section.

If the PvP server is still in rough shape a month from now, we will be revisiting the topic of exp rates on the PvP server specifically.

[Szrental]

I am 99.9% sure it was due to him multiboxing to boost himself in the open world with his max level character.

In any case, if you can't abide the rules, play somewhere where the rules are to your liking. What's so hard about that? I'm actually a fan of multiboxing, having done it for ages on retail servers. The reason I don't do it here is because the rules are such that I don't see enough enjoyment coming from it. I will not just excuse myself of the rules because I would prefer to do things some other way... It's all laziness, entitlement and excuses. Good riddance.

I agree with you. I was not defending any actions, I just couldnt tell myself what the reason for the ban was in this case. OP mentioned PVP and mentioned boosting but Krestel came back with RMT which is more severe treatment from what I have seen. It could have been RMT boosting. I just wanted to step in before OP flew off the rails to a point of no return because a few people posted before Krestel could come back to review.

That's why I opted to post the rules so OP could better explain his circumstance if needed. For the first month/two when I joined coming from never playing on a private server I never even knew there was a rule page.

OP, if you don't browse the forums much there's an active post right now about the state of PVP server and as Krestel mentioned they are also advocating for exp boost on PVP server. Might be worth posting something there state your opinion on leveling on YS. https://octowow.st/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3024.

[Defiant]

You say 'participating in RMT' as in real money trading. My guy... I'm not paying anyone.

Honestly from the way you phrased your post I genuinely thought you were admitting to RMT too, can't really blame them for misunderstanding.

[Ricky]

I totally get where you’re coming from, Sniejezakaf. The GMs here are so toxic—they’ll find something to complain about in absolutely everything. To me, they’re just thoroughly unlikeable assholes who have nothing better to do than make life difficult for the very people who bring this server to life. These players even contribute significant donations to the server, and as a "thank you," the GMs play sheriff, deluding themselves into thinking they’re actually doing something good. In fact, by serving the server in this way, they’re acting illegally themselves. Back in the day, I found Turtle 10,000 times better than these idiots here.

are they trying to lower the pop of server on purpose? I have read so many stories of good people being perm banned away from this server for silly infractions. Even T wow didnt perma ban hardly anyone. Just temp bans. The population is already struggling enough. You'd think they would want all the players they can get to help boost more players into coming and playing.

[Defiant]

I have read so many stories of good people being perm banned away from this server for silly infractions.

I mean, which ban appeals specifically? They always seem pretty fair to me.

A lot of the "stories" are people who got caught red handed and just lie. It's one of the reasons I think this open air ban appeals process is so great. If someone claims they were wrongly banned, just ask them where their ban appeal is. If they didn't make one it's because they know what they did and don't want it posted here publicly by Kestrel.

The guy you're responding to by the way, he bought accounts that had been stolen. In his ban appeal he basically said that he shouldn't be punished because it's a private server which is illegal. Just providing some context.

It looks like you got wrongly banned, but it was reversed because again they're legitimately trying to do the right thing here. I don't think this pushes people away, I think it helps retain players. Because we see that the GMs genuinely give a damn and want to ensure everyone is playing fair. That said, I definitely understand being frustrated since again you were wrongly banned.

[Rtas]

Dear Sir/ Madam,

I have a wife, a kid and a pretty busy job. There's only like a few hours every week where I can have some 'me' time and play some WoW. Since my main character is basically at the end of the game, i'd like to have a second character. But i can't be asked to go from 1 to 60 with no way of any help. I would just take to long. Asking a friend or guild members is virtuallly out of the picture since the majority is raidlogging or pvping at this point. And on top of that, there are hardly any levelers to run dungeons with...

In telabim i was able to have a few characters since they allowed for 2X on the pvp server and boosting in dungeons (which was not nerfed as it is in Octo). I simply don't have the time to go through the whole leveling grind again. I chose the worst class to do it with, but its the best hybrid class to help the guild out. As tanks and healers are just non existant sometimes...

Hence the reason why i'm appealing. I'm not denying what I did is against the rules, but It's the only way for me not to just raidlog.

Aways up for a chat.

Kr,

Snie

No you are at fault and no you're life isn't an excuse. If you only have so much time to do something, then just deal with it. Stop thinking that gives yo the right to cut corners or demand shit be given to you because "hurr I am bizzee".

Learn time management skills, its not hard